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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:16 pm 
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Hello DSBers!

As promised, I will be hosting weekly Duel Tournaments every Wednesday at 20:00GMT (Is the time alright or wish it to be later? Let me know!) This tournament will go on from Wednesday July 17th until September 4th. During this time you can gather points by playing in the tournament towards final scoring, one part of the scoring comes from showing up, other part from the position you will have in each tournament.

Top 5 players of each week tournament will receive following points for their success:

1st: 3.5 points
2nd: 2.5 points
3rd: 1.5 point
4th: 1 points
5th: 0.5 points

In addition to this for showing up you will get 1 point.

After each tournament the winner will be awarded with pub points. Or, is there some other suggestion for what shall the weekly winner gain? Is the scoring fine as it is? Thoughts? Comments? If anybody is a geek and wants to make a fixed scoring which works by a factor which counts towards the amount of players in each tournament (participants x something = score?), feel free to suggest it, I'm not exactly a geek on that so please help me out if you see that kind of scoring system would work better? (Although I do believe the show ups are going to vary a lot which would make the scoring unfair, however lets see what you'll come up with!)

PS. Do not forget that there is Event Saturday as well when other kind of events will be hosted at players request, as well as practices or anything we can arrange!


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:09 am 
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Without any calculations... how about just multiplying it if there are more people.

-4 players
no Tournament

5-8 players
1st 5 points
2nd 4 points
3rd 3 points
4th 2 points
5th 1 point
Show up 2 points

9-16 players
1st 10 points
2nd 8 points
3rd 6 points
4th 4 points
5th 2 points
Show up 2 points

17-32 players
1st 15 points
2nd 12 points
3rd 9 points
4th 6 points
5th 3 points
Show up 2 points


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:46 pm 
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That seems good alternative, still waiting if anybody else has a suggestion before making any decisions. Btw if anybody are around, could try playing a DT during the Event Saturday just for fun.

Oh by the way, one important thing is not mentioned in the first post, the Duel Tournaments will be all ship tournaments. Perhaps special weekend or weekends can happen with light fighters only but most of the tournament will be all ship, I do not believe that anybody gains any advantage out of this, plus as a true duel champion you must be able to play versus any ship and come out from the box as a winner. :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:37 pm 
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First week of DT is over, scores are coming tomorrow. We had 7 players and the winner of the first tournament is Magnum Size!

By the way, one more scoring suggestion:

Win Round 1 you get 1 point
Win Round 2 you get 2 points
Win Round 3 you get 3 points
etc.
+ the show up point(s) 1 or 2

Basically if you make it to last round you get most points.

Obviously the scoring in this system would go as you get the score of the highest round you've achieved, like if you get to round 2 and lose you get only 1 point. Thoughts?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:56 am 
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Beer Hunter wrote:
First week of DT is over, scores are coming tomorrow. We had 7 players and the winner of the first tournament is Magnum Size!

By the way, one more scoring suggestion:

Win Round 1 you get 1 point
Win Round 2 you get 2 points
Win Round 3 you get 3 points
etc.
+ the show up point(s) 1 or 2

Basically if you make it to last round you get most points.

Obviously the scoring in this system would go as you get the score of the highest round you've achieved, like if you get to round 2 and lose you get only 1 point. Thoughts?


That option is possible but rewards newbies when they happen to meet in the first rounds. I believe you mean if you win Round 2, you have accumulated 3 points, right?
If you win Round 3, you have 6 points in total, etc.? If yes, I could play with that system. If you suggest Round 5 Winner (aka The winner of a 32 player tournament)
only gets 5 points it's ridiculous.

Oh, and to correct my original suggestion. I don't think Top 5 should get points but only Top 4.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:00 pm 
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Ah yes indeed, accumulated points works better in that suggestion. :oops:

I'll have little wrestling match over the two best scoring possibilities and pick one on Sunday or Monday, whenever I am back online.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:48 am 
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I would actually vote for your point system as long as players accumulate points as mentioned previously.
However, 'Byes' would always be free points which is bit of a problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:41 pm 
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That accumulated point system it shall be then. As for the byes, how about they get the lower amount of points unless winning the round they get bye to? That leaves only free points you can gain to round 1 byes.

Example: you win round 1 and get bye to round 3, if you lose round 3 you get points only for winning round 1? If you win round 3, you get points for round 2 and 3 like everybody else. Thoughts? I will be absent for the weekend after this post.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:00 pm 
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I'm now glad I can quit once again as the #1 spot holder in DT arena. I've noticed that people who used to duel from that top10 list nomore duels and neither will I do. All I want to say now is Good Luck with your future DSB, will be fun fun visiting you again in a year or two. This old game isn't gold for me anymore, my time as a solid good player has been over some years ago (in dueling). Yea, won some leagues too, some ppl like Bandoon never remembered me from team Finland, also it would be seen from the team Finland roster - which was deleted among other teams when the whole league section for DSB WW1 was removed. Also after League 10 I was playing an All-Star match in 12vs12 and that was during the solid side of my SS career. Its sad that we had to rebuild the DSB community with new websites each 4th year about, where all the proof of what everyone had achieved was erased. You could just hit a nickname at seach function and it would find everything about that player. I feel like I've achieved a lot from this game, my best moments was from dueling, also best opponents from dueling was Makron and Beastie - with Beastie being undefeated by me and with winning Makron 2 times in a DT final and 1 time in a duel ladder league. I can't just mention esidebob as a better dueler than me because I was a complete newbie the times I dueled esidebob when I had just started playing DSB. I dont feel like turning the spaceship nomore, I just dont have the will to do it anymore. On a sidenote my best memory from a duel tournament was back from year 2004 or 2005 when I had played a 32 players DT with Rea in the finals of it, which I won 3-1. I remember how pissed he was after losing to me and wanted a rematch in normal duel arena (that duel after never counted as a real duel, remember that Rea). Also here is a log from a complete duel tournament, which was my 50th DT win:

All ships will be allowed in this tournament. --R2G2
The duel tournament will begin in 60 seconds. Enter now to play. --R2G2
Crusader'> aw
MasterSer.> wie gaat winnen
Crusader'> ik
MasterSer.> het gaat tussen mij exa detector en saar worden
Maelstron!> eat
Crusader'> ik won niet van bifrost tog
MasterSer.> jah maar jij komt ver hier ;)
watch damage on
Round 1 has begun
_____________________________________________________________________________
Box 1 Bondocks (0) vs. exagon (0)
Box 2 Crusader' (0) vs. S@@R (0)
Box 3 MaRBReD (0) vs. Detector (0)
Box 4 MasterSer. (0) vs. sexualharrassmentpa (0)
Box 5 Pheonixmiser (0) vs. Creeper2 (0)
Box 6 ksasaki (0) vs. Pater Punishment (0)
Box 7 Uberkhy (0) vs. Waski (0)
Box 8 Maelstron!!! (0) vs. Aseveli (0)
Bye: ER>Ringo
_____________________________________________________________________________
Crusader'> ok we gaan zien
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
MasterSer.> ai :D
ksasaki> hax
Crusader'> OMFG SAAR
Crusader'> LOL
Uberkhy> lol
MasterSer.> zie je
MasterSer.> gg
Uberkhy> shit
Crusader'> !Lag s@@r
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
Uberkhy> minimap is confusng
Crusader'> normal pple can do that saar? :D
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Maelstron!> wha
Hrm. Everyone is within the lag-limits, from what I can see... Just FYI. -Ringo
Waski> gg
Uberkhy> lmao
Waski has defeated Uberkhy. (3-0) --R2G2
Waski> indeed
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
MaRBReD> ahahaha
MaRBReD> :D
Uberkhy> Iiiiii suck
ksasaki> cvcvvcv
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
MaRBReD> gg
Creeper2 has defeated Pheonixmiser. (3-0) --R2G2
Detector> gg
Detector has defeated MaRBReD. (3-0) --R2G2
Uberkhy> omfg
Uberkhy> lol
Creeper2> gg
Maelstron!> gg
Aseveli has defeated Maelstron!!!. (3-0) --R2G2
ksasaki> gggg
Pater Punishment has defeated ksasaki. (3-0) --R2G2
Pater Puni> gg
Aseveli> g
Crusader'> nice using lag :P
Crusader'> :(
S@@R> sorry
S@@R> im laging
Crusader'> i need to go lol
Crusader'> gg :)
Crusader'> cya
S@@R has defeated Crusader'. (3-1) --R2G2
MasterSer.> wrm ga je man
MaRBReD> poor crunky
P Detector> !score
P R2G2> Box 1 Bondocks (2) vs. exagon (1)
P R2G2> Box 2 Crusader' (1) vs. S@@R (3)
P R2G2> Box 3 MaRBReD (0) vs. Detector (3)
P R2G2> Box 4 MasterSer. (1) vs. sexualharrassmentpa (1)
P R2G2> Box 5 Pheonixmiser (0) vs. Creeper2 (3)
P R2G2> Box 6 ksasaki (0) vs. Pater Punishment (3)
P R2G2> Box 7 Uberkhy (0) vs. Waski (3)
P R2G2> Box 8 Maelstron!!! (0) vs. Aseveli (3)
exagon> ik ben er uit swa
MaRBReD> ahahaha
MasterSer.> omfg
exagon> ten eerste hij eet en runt als pussy
MaRBReD> hehehe
Bondocks has defeated exagon. (3-1) --R2G2
MaRBReD> long round?
P Detector> !score
P R2G2> Box 1 Bondocks (3) vs. exagon (1)
P R2G2> Box 2 Crusader' (1) vs. S@@R (3)
P R2G2> Box 3 MaRBReD (0) vs. Detector (3)
P R2G2> Box 4 MasterSer. (1) vs. sexualharrassmentpa (1)
P R2G2> Box 5 Pheonixmiser (0) vs. Creeper2 (3)
P R2G2> Box 6 ksasaki (0) vs. Pater Punishment (3)
P R2G2> Box 7 Uberkhy (0) vs. Waski (3)
P R2G2> Box 8 Maelstron!!! (0) vs. Aseveli (3)
exagon> ik wordt gek man
sexualharr> ill make it quicki
Uberkhy> faiill
sexualharr> lolz
MasterSer.> lol
sexualharr> GG
MasterSer. has defeated sexualharrassmentpa. (3-1) --R2G2
MasterSer.> GG :P
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Round over. Starting new round.
sexualharr> my gf is home
sexualharr> lol
sexualharr> l8r
MasterSer.> lol :P
MasterSer.> have fun
Round 2 has begun
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Box 1 S@@R (0) vs. Detector (0)
Box 2 MasterSer. (0) vs. Creeper2 (0)
Box 3 Pater Punishment (0) vs. Waski (0)
Box 4 Aseveli (0) vs. ER>Ringo (0)
Bye: Bondocks
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P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Waski> spikee
Waski> stna
Waski> venaa sekunti
Pater Puni> :/
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
MasterSer.> lalaal
MasterSer.> fuckign oprox lost
Creeper2> :D
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Waski> eih
Waski> :D
Pater Puni> :P
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
Waski> jäissä
MasterSer.> lol
MasterSer.> who won from detector?
Creeper2> :D
S@@R> im geting raped
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Creeper2> damn
S@@R> gg
Detector> gg
Detector has defeated S@@R. (3-0) --R2G2
C 1:exagon> how can I lose first round...
Waski> gg
Waski> :)
Aseveli> gg
ER>Ringo> gg
Pater Puni> gg
Pater Punishment has defeated Waski. (3-1) --R2G2
Aseveli has defeated ER>Ringo. (3-0) --R2G2
C 1:exagon> I trained a whoke hour ith u detec
C 1:Detector> he ran alot
Aseveli> next roudn i fall :(
C 1:Detector> if you just let him come to ya
MasterSer.> gg
Creeper2> gg
MasterSer. has defeated Creeper2. (3-0) --R2G2
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Round over. Starting new round.
Aseveli> wildcard! :E
Round 3 has begun
_____________________________________________________________________________
Box 1 MasterSer. (0) vs. Pater Punishment (0)
Box 2 Aseveli (0) vs. Bondocks (0)
Bye: Detector
_____________________________________________________________________________
MasterSer.> nice
Pater Puni> lanc.. ha
MasterSer.> :p
Pater Puni> how to change?
MasterSer.> prox lost ;@
Pater Puni> life sucks eh
Pater Puni> play some real ship
MasterSer.> omg
Pater Puni> thats what your mama said last night :P
MasterSer.> roflmao
Aseveli has defeated Bondocks. (3-0) --R2G2
Aseveli> gg
Bondocks> gg
MasterSer.> OMFG
MasterSer.> gg
Pater Punishment has defeated MasterSer.. (3-0) --R2G2
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Round over. Starting new round.
Pater Puni> thats what she said next
Pater Puni> :D haha gg
MasterSer.> LOL
Aseveli> either way i lose now :(
Round 4 has begun
_____________________________________________________________________________
Box 1 Aseveli (0) vs. Detector (0)
Bye: Pater Punishment
_____________________________________________________________________________
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Pater Puni> bye :/
Creeper2> :D
Creeper2> gg pater
Pater Puni> gg :o
Pater Puni> brb
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Spike...!> Hi everyone
Aseveli> eh
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
Aseveli> dete wtf
Detector> close
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Aseveli> should have been a kill but whatev
Aseveli> seriously
Detector has defeated Aseveli. (3-0) --R2G2
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Round over. Starting new round.
Detector> gg
Aseveli> not
Aseveli> imo
Aseveli> u should have died 2 times
Round 5 has begun
_____________________________________________________________________________
Box 1 Detector (0) vs. Pater Punishment (0)
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Waski> hehe
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Aseveli> but whatev :P
Creeper2> ai sä pääsit viel jaktaa :)
C 7:Waski> east
C 5:Waski> east
C 4:Waski> east
C 7:Aseveli> eeeeee
Aseveli> easst
C 7:Waski> EAST
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
C 5:Waski> EAST
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
C 4:Waski> EAST
C 7:Aseveli> ?go east
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
Pater Puni> et oo täysin paska mut et sä mul pärjää :)
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Detector> niinpä
P R2G2> You have 15 seconds to change ships if you want to.
Pater Puni> no, voit pärjätäkin
Pater Puni> :) heh
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Pater Puni> heh
Detector has defeated Pater Punishment. (3-1) --R2G2
Pater Puni> pelaat kyl tarkkaa
P R2G2> Go Go Go!
Pater Puni> gg
Detector> gg
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Name: | Kills | Deaths | Damage Dealt | Duel Wins |
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ER>Ringo | 0 | 5 | 7181 | 0 |
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Bondocks | 6 | 10 | 23881 | 1 |
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exagon | 3 | 6 | 15531 | 0 |
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Crusader' | 1 | 4 | 10855 | 0 |
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S@@R | 4 | 6 | 22712 | 1 |
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MaRBReD | 0 | 3 | 5511 | 0 |
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Detector | 13 | 3 | 44422 | 4 |
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MasterSer. | 9 | 7 | 21107 | 2 |
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sexualharrassmentpa| 2 | 4 | 16784 | 0 |
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Pheonixmiser | 0 | 4 | 2672 | 0 |
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Creeper2 | 4 | 4 | 29392 | 1 |
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ksasaki | 0 | 4 | 7515 | 0 |
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Pater Punishment| 11 | 5 | 78824 | 3 |
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Uberkhy | 0 | 3 | 668 | 0 |
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Waski | 4 | 3 | 12692 | 1 |
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Maelstron!!! | 0 | 4 | 4008 | 0 |
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Aseveli | 10 | 4 | 52438 | 3 |
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Most Kills (13): Detector
Least Deaths (3): MaRBReD
Most Damage Done (78824): Pater Punishment
Winner: Detector! --R2G2
Remember to vote for DT next time if you enjoyed it! --R2G2
P Detector> !top10
P R2G2> --------------------------------
P R2G2> Top 10 Players Rating
P R2G2> --------------------------------
P R2G2> 1. Detector (3154)
P R2G2> 2. Booyaa (2653)
P R2G2> 3. Makron (2355)
P R2G2> 4. Matioso (2330)
P R2G2> 5. X-Ray Dog (2292)
P R2G2> 6. Noobius (2267)
P R2G2> 7. Beastie (2045)
P R2G2> 9. Op>Bandoon (1985)
P R2G2> 10. Rea (1955)
And Detector is the winner. Good game all. Thanks for playing. -Ringo
P Detector> !stats
P R2G2> Player: Detector DT Wins: 50 Duel wins: 264 Kills: 1035 Deaths: 687 Damage Dealt: 4258099 Rating: 3154 Rank: 1
Pater Puni> huoh :/

These were some times perhaps 5 years ago or more and after it I won 20 more duel tournaments. Good luck with your future DSB, I will be visiting you later, bye.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:01 am 
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Beer Hunter wrote:
That accumulated point system it shall be then. As for the byes, how about they get the lower amount of points unless winning the round they get bye to? That leaves only free points you can gain to round 1 byes.

Example: you win round 1 and get bye to round 3, if you lose round 3 you get points only for winning round 1? If you win round 3, you get points for round 2 and 3 like everybody else. Thoughts? I will be absent for the weekend after this post.


That sounds good to me.


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