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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:13 pm 
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Tembest wrote:
I don't know why you post statistics that don't really favour you.

Even in that top 10 list, only Matioso, Bandoon and Cyph have a worse
winning ratio than you.


And even that doesn't tell that I would be worse dueler than Detector.


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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:12 pm 
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I know the duel arena records have been reset a couple of times.
You can clearly see, though, that opinions cannot decide
who is better and who is worse.
A simple example to illustrate this notion is ?go leaguehall arena.
It is total bullshit, and not because my nickname is not there.

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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:38 pm 
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So yea, 3 responses to the actual topic then a bunch of crap about best time in flagrace and who was best at dueling years ago..... Seriously, I want some more criticism on the theme. Look at my original post and please reply to the original question. Detector! no more side notes. look what you started, lol. thx.


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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:47 pm 
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Eridu, i'm not going to give you more advices, you already have more than you've asked for.

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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:07 pm 
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Matioso wrote:
Tembest wrote:
I don't know why you post statistics that don't really favour you.

Even in that top 10 list, only Matioso, Bandoon and Cyph have a worse
winning ratio than you.


And even that doesn't tell that I would be worse dueler than Detector.


Exactly.. Very few stats say anything about a player's actual skill level.

Detector wrote:
I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you again, you clearly underestimated me from being a good dueler, I can see your point. Many said once that it was DSB STAFF who killed DSB's population, I kind of agree with them now.


1. This has clearly been my personal point of view, not an approach by Staff.
You know, everyone in Staff has their own opinions. Just like you don't represent
your squad's voice but your personal opinion...
2. If you ever want people to honour you at all, then learn to take some criticism
and accept other people's opinions.

I, personally, in my own opinion, don't think you're one of the top duelers in dsb,
and you haven't yet given me anything that would change my mind. Deal with it.

Anyhow, I'm cool with Eridu's request and will drop this subject now.


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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:08 am 
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is the theme gone yet? i want to play some pub

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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:31 pm 
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Damn we had fun duels with ossi yesterday :) Should host some big dt sometime.


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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:42 pm 
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is a hi

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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:16 am 
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Detector wrote:
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Rea should never he mentioned. He never really dueled anyone stronger than him.
He even completely quit dueling me right after losing the first two times. Also, Rea was
like top 5 during his prime as well.

butch,makky,beastie,sniper,mush,boris,chalk,pater,me,(sk) I haven't really seen you duel much,
but if Rea > you, then you have no right to be here. If you > Rea, then welcome


Ofc. me > Rea, I remember how he lost the 40 ppl DT against me in the final round and started private messaging me with bad words and wanted a rematch at duel arena so badly. Rea dueled mostly players from public, as he challenged them to a duel.


Oh man so sad after all these years having to lie and be delusional. Congrats man you won a couple rounds, I used to own you ALL THE TIME lmao. Probably 95% of the duels we had, I raped you.

Get over it kid. It's been so long lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Bomb Theme in Pub
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:19 am 
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Seriel Killer wrote:
Tembest wrote:
As I mentioned, creating a list of the best 10 all time is impossible.
All you can look at his know they managed during their era.

I remember those pilots being the best there was, at least at some point.

I didn't put boris's name because he was roughly top 5 of his time, and thus,
does not deserve to be there. It could be that he belongs in a list where
the real top 10, if all players played at the same time, would be formed.

I didn't mention myself because during my peak times, Makky and Chalk were clearly
better. The rest, I pretty much beat, but those two beat me like 3/4 times we dueled.
Your name isn't there for the same reason, I never saw you dominate duel. Noobius?
I don't think I've lost once to him...

Rea should never he mentioned. He never really dueled anyone stronger than him.
He even completely quit dueling me right after losing the first two times. Also, Rea was
like top 5 during his prime as well.

Butch and eside dominated duel when they were at their best. No doubt about that.
The problem was that they were too wise to die. We all know Makron and Beastie.
Sniper was the only one who actually beat Beastie during Beastie's prime. Chalk wasn't
at his best using that name. He became and inactive staffers and started smurfing, that's
when he beat Makky, Mush, Sniper, me, many others who were good those days.

Pater, I can't remember when, but dominated duel for a while. It was like a one season
miracle, maybe he just dueled so much that year. Somewhere around league 6 maybe?
But I don't remember anyone really beating him that year.

Bj was one of the first great duelers, he was at his best even before Butch and eside,
and I tell you. He was invincible. Massi kind of took over after eside and butch, massi
was arguably the best player of that time. I'm not really sure if he dominated duel that bad,
but it's the image I have in my mind.

And Dete, only butch, eside and massi left dsb a long time ago. The rest were smurfing for
a long long time.

If you want me to create a list that does not concern time in any way... then umm...
That's hard but it could be something like... remember this is when the players were
at their best, not like the average level of their ss career.

butch,makky,beastie,sniper,mush,boris,chalk,pater,me,(sk) I haven't really seen you duel much,
but if Rea > you, then you have no right to be here. If you > Rea, then welcome. :)
Rea definitely does not belong there but I'm not sure who to place there. Maybe ossi.. and you
didn't even play when ossi was at his best.


You're clearly using what you've seen as a ranking method which is wrong since I have
had around 3k-4k hours of Warbird dueling, Boris had around 5k-6k hours of Warbird dueling...
The only one I've seen beating Rea more than he beat other people was Makron so please...

Code:
 R2G2> --------------------------------
      R2G2>   Top 10 Players   Rating
      R2G2> --------------------------------
      R2G2> 1. Detector        (4030)
      R2G2> 2. Booyaa          (3118)
      R2G2> 3. Matioso         (2928)
      R2G2> 4. Makron          (2785)
      R2G2> 5. Beastie         (2623)
      R2G2> 6. ER>CattleBruiser(2456)
      R2G2> 7. X-Ray Dog       (2363)
      R2G2> 9. Noobius         (2289)
      R2G2> 10. Cyph            (2078)


Yeah, that list is not entirely true since some DTs are played against newbies but I'd say the first
5 players there are damn good at dueling.
You can also go to duel arena and see kill/death ratio for players and see how much they've played
there but the total amount of kills and deaths.
There is also that website snake made which connected the bot results with the website's database,
that website with 1vs1 league, Sector League etc... http://sector.dsbleagues.com/index.php

These three, in my opinion, are the only factors to determine who is a good dueler or now, because,
if it's not on record then you're not a good dueler.


Thanks SK, finally someone who remembers history accurately LOL.

Yes, I used to beat everyone on that list consistently except for makron, and beastie (in the later years after my peak). The best duelers to my memory in no particular order were:

Makron
Beastie
Rea
Butcher
Ossi
Bjorn
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