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Tembest
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Tembest »

Matioso wrote:Why not host dt and sort this all out. I mean dt for some weekend and for time which is ok for all.
What's the point of that? There are no good duelers left here...

Detector
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Detector »

Rea should never he mentioned. He never really dueled anyone stronger than him.
He even completely quit dueling me right after losing the first two times. Also, Rea was
like top 5 during his prime as well.

butch,makky,beastie,sniper,mush,boris,chalk,pater,me,(sk) I haven't really seen you duel much,
but if Rea > you, then you have no right to be here. If you > Rea, then welcome
Ofc. me > Rea, I remember how he lost the 40 ppl DT against me in the final round and started private messaging me with bad words and wanted a rematch at duel arena so badly. Rea dueled mostly players from public, as he challenged them to a duel.

Detector
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Detector »

What's the point of that? There are no good duelers left here...
Thats right. Even I stopped trying to duel after no more competition for anymore duel tournaments.
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Seriel Killer
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Seriel Killer »

Tembest wrote:As I mentioned, creating a list of the best 10 all time is impossible.
All you can look at his know they managed during their era.

I remember those pilots being the best there was, at least at some point.

I didn't put boris's name because he was roughly top 5 of his time, and thus,
does not deserve to be there. It could be that he belongs in a list where
the real top 10, if all players played at the same time, would be formed.

I didn't mention myself because during my peak times, Makky and Chalk were clearly
better. The rest, I pretty much beat, but those two beat me like 3/4 times we dueled.
Your name isn't there for the same reason, I never saw you dominate duel. Noobius?
I don't think I've lost once to him...

Rea should never he mentioned. He never really dueled anyone stronger than him.
He even completely quit dueling me right after losing the first two times. Also, Rea was
like top 5 during his prime as well.

Butch and eside dominated duel when they were at their best. No doubt about that.
The problem was that they were too wise to die. We all know Makron and Beastie.
Sniper was the only one who actually beat Beastie during Beastie's prime. Chalk wasn't
at his best using that name. He became and inactive staffers and started smurfing, that's
when he beat Makky, Mush, Sniper, me, many others who were good those days.

Pater, I can't remember when, but dominated duel for a while. It was like a one season
miracle, maybe he just dueled so much that year. Somewhere around league 6 maybe?
But I don't remember anyone really beating him that year.

Bj was one of the first great duelers, he was at his best even before Butch and eside,
and I tell you. He was invincible. Massi kind of took over after eside and butch, massi
was arguably the best player of that time. I'm not really sure if he dominated duel that bad,
but it's the image I have in my mind.

And Dete, only butch, eside and massi left dsb a long time ago. The rest were smurfing for
a long long time.

If you want me to create a list that does not concern time in any way... then umm...
That's hard but it could be something like... remember this is when the players were
at their best, not like the average level of their ss career.

butch,makky,beastie,sniper,mush,boris,chalk,pater,me,(sk) I haven't really seen you duel much,
but if Rea > you, then you have no right to be here. If you > Rea, then welcome. :)
Rea definitely does not belong there but I'm not sure who to place there. Maybe ossi.. and you
didn't even play when ossi was at his best.
You're clearly using what you've seen as a ranking method which is wrong since I have
had around 3k-4k hours of Warbird dueling, Boris had around 5k-6k hours of Warbird dueling...
The only one I've seen beating Rea more than he beat other people was Makron so please...

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 R2G2> --------------------------------
      R2G2>   Top 10 Players   Rating 
      R2G2> --------------------------------
      R2G2> 1. Detector        (4030)
      R2G2> 2. Booyaa          (3118)
      R2G2> 3. Matioso         (2928)
      R2G2> 4. Makron          (2785)
      R2G2> 5. Beastie         (2623)
      R2G2> 6. ER>CattleBruiser(2456)
      R2G2> 7. X-Ray Dog       (2363)
      R2G2> 9. Noobius         (2289)
      R2G2> 10. Cyph            (2078)
Yeah, that list is not entirely true since some DTs are played against newbies but I'd say the first
5 players there are damn good at dueling.
You can also go to duel arena and see kill/death ratio for players and see how much they've played
there but the total amount of kills and deaths.
There is also that website snake made which connected the bot results with the website's database,
that website with 1vs1 league, Sector League etc... http://sector.dsbleagues.com/index.php

These three, in my opinion, are the only factors to determine who is a good dueler or now, because,
if it's not on record then you're not a good dueler.
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Detector
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Detector »

They took down this site: http://dsb1vs1.dsbleagues.com/, just when it could have explained things and the only good dueler I lost to there several times was Makron.

Top 10 statistics from R2G2 Bot

R2G2> Player: Detector DT Wins: 70 Duel wins: 390 Kills: 1550 Deaths: 1130 Damage Dealt: 6526929 Rating: 4030 Rank: 1
R2G2> Player: Booyaa DT Wins: 51 Duel wins: 262 Kills: 986 Deaths: 681 Damage Dealt: 4867368 Rating: 3118 Rank: 2
R2G2> Player: Matioso DT Wins: 45 Duel wins: 250 Kills: 1112 Deaths: 859 Damage Dealt: 4811622 Rating: 2928 Rank: 3
R2G2> Player: Makron DT Wins: 43 Duel wins: 184 Kills: 633 Deaths: 229 Damage Dealt: 2818943 Rating: 2785 Rank: 4
R2G2> Player: Beastie DT Wins: 42 Duel wins: 171 Kills: 586 Deaths: 277 Damage Dealt: 2324918 Rating: 2623 Rank: 5
R2G2> Player: ER>CattleBruiser DT Wins: 41 Duel wins: 171 Kills: 754 Deaths: 597 Damage Dealt: 2575808 Rating: 2456 Rank: 6
R2G2> Player: X-Ray Dog DT Wins: 32 Duel wins: 151 Kills: 602 Deaths: 323 Damage Dealt: 3365331 Rating: 2363 Rank: 7
R2G2> Player: Bandoon DT Wins: 28 Duel wins: 188 Kills: 759 Deaths: 602 Damage Dealt: 3180871 Rating: 2329 Rank: 8
R2G2> Player: Noobius DT Wins: 33 Duel wins: 145 Kills: 527 Deaths: 313 Damage Dealt: 3272545 Rating: 2289 Rank: 9
R2G2> Player: Cyph DT Wins: 22 Duel wins: 150 Kills: 590 Deaths: 442 Damage Dealt: 2675004 Rating: 2078 Rank: 10

Tembest
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Tembest »

When dt's became a regular thing in dsb, most of the best duelers
didn't even duel regularly anymore. Also, possibly you don't know but
the kills and deaths were reseted a couple of times in duel arena. I, for example,
had around 15,000 kills before the last reset. After the reset, I've only
got like 3,000 in 6 years or so.

And claiming Rea was one of the best is stupid because he simply avoided dueling
players better than him by all means. Even Dete claims he is better than Rea, and
I can in all honesty say that I was definitely better than Rea.

Then again, ranking players is hard for another reason as well. Some players have
trouble fighting certain type of players. For example, I struggled a lot against
players who always went full attack. That was clearly my weakness. They overshoot
and simply charge at you, newbie way of dueling. I never got used to it.

Tembest
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Tembest »

I don't know why you post statistics that don't really favour you.

Even in that top 10 list, only Matioso, Bandoon and Cyph have a worse
winning ratio than you.

Detector
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Detector »

Even in that top 10 list, only Matioso, Bandoon and Cyph have a worse
winning ratio than you.


You meant Kills/Deaths ratio? In that case Booyaa and CattleBruiser have too.

Tembest
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Tembest »

Detector wrote:
Even in that top 10 list, only Matioso, Bandoon and Cyph have a worse
winning ratio than you.


You meant Kills/Deaths ratio? In that case Booyaa and CattleBruiser have too.
Nope, but you can look that as well if you want to. I meant the amount of wins in relation
to how many tournaments you've played. It can be roughly calculated from the kills and deaths
in relation to wins. Anyway, whatever you look at, the stats are not really in your favour there.
Same's happened before, you've posted statistics many others of us think are pointless or more
like fight against you. But I guess we all value different things then...

Detector
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Re: Bomb Theme in Pub

Post by Detector »

Nope, but you can look that as well if you want to. I meant the amount of wins in relation
to how many tournaments you've played. It can be roughly calculated from the kills and deaths
in relation to wins. Anyway, whatever you look at, the stats are not really in your favour there.
Same's happened before, you've posted statistics many others of us think are pointless or more
like fight against you. But I guess we all value different things then...
I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you again, you clearly underestimated me from being a good dueler, I can see your point. Many said once that it was DSB STAFF who killed DSB's population, I kind of agree with them now.

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