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by jim the chin
Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:59 am
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

Ent could do that, though I think an average from a sample of 1000 won't change much if you increase the sample size to 50000. There's also a reason for the averages being higher in some sectors. If you push 3 people into a small space (east) then they'll get more kills between them . That doesn't n...
by jim the chin
Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:12 am
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

[10:11:00 AM] Ziv: how many times ppl were mvps with most kills in south/west [10:11:02 AM] Ziv: back in the days [10:11:04 AM] Ziv: its bullshit [10:11:15 AM] Ziv: and someties u hardly get kills in east coz everyone is hunkering down I'm sure snake knows what averages are. 90 is a good compromise...
by jim the chin
Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:08 am
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Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

FFS... Well lets go with 90 then. Anyhow, I'm not here to argue, because what Sever proposed is still 1000 miles better than what he's been proposing for the last week. Hmmph, ok. I change my mind because, 1. I want to reach an agreement that works for everyone; 2. I'm not religiously sticking to on...
by jim the chin
Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:05 am
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

If we want kill points equal to flag points, we should use: East: K = 70.96 * 1 = 70.96 North: K = 119.05 * 1 = 119.05 South: K = 97.61 * 1 = 97.61 West K = (2 players): 107.27 * 1 = 107.27 West (3 players): K = 107.27 * 1 = 107.27 Ent, do you have any objection to using this from your first post, ...
by jim the chin
Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:13 am
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Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

Temb, I agree that's important, but what Ent's doing is relevant too. I suppose the easiest way to say it is: "the macroscopic reflects the microscopic". In other words the total ratio of kills to flags reflects all the minor occurrences that happen during a match. However, I actually see your point...
by jim the chin
Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:15 am
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

Well, you are right about one thing - I am lumping bonus points in with kill points, and then forcing that sum to be a ratio of flag points. But it's totally equivalent to lumping bonus points in with flag points, and then forcing kill points to be a ratio of that sum. It's also equivalent to creat...
by jim the chin
Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:05 pm
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

So you're using killbonus= 5*flagcount and estimating the average flagcount as half the total flags. That's fair enough. If we use it, we might go with something like B=3 though. It's clear that would take 30, 48, 36, 36, and 36 from the totals instead, so there's no need to work those out. My issue...
by jim the chin
Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:51 pm
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

If we want kill points equal to flag points, we should use: East: K = 70.96 * 1 = 70.96 North: K = 119.05 * 1 = 119.05 South: K = 97.61 * 1 = 97.61 West K = (2 players): 107.27 * 1 = 107.27 West (3 players): K = 107.27 * 1 = 107.27 Without looking at things in too much detail, this looks right to m...
by jim the chin
Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:43 pm
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Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

This way of reasoning changes what was always the most fundamental aspect of dsb's gameplay. The whole point was to win flags, how anyone went about doing so was entirely up to them. Even the most extreme kill-oriented players had big dings in mind. I agree. I think you misunderstood what I was say...
by jim the chin
Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:05 pm
Forum: Main Forum
Topic: Re-Organizing DSB
Replies: 162
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Re: Re-Organizing DSB

Edit 2: I bothered to look up the old discussion. I proposed anything between 2-3. The 6vs6 system got most support. Then people agreed we should switch it to 80 for now. ~roughly 2.5 was the aim people in general approved of. By no means can it be higher than 3 was said, and 2 is low. I already fo...